It was important to us that Bill Hicks be the first. He is, as far as we’re concerned, the greatest standup of our generation, and someone who allowed his guts and heart to lead his life and art. He was authentic and honest, and didn’t give a shit what you thought of him or his opinions. We profoundly resonate with that famous quote of his, “It’s just a ride.” In this interview we talk about consciousness, life after death, anger and how to positively channel it, the current state of our politicians and stand up, drugs, Russell Brand, the Tool tribute, and his new life as a radical girl.
Mimi: Oh yeah, he’s here, I invited him.
William: Yeah I got him. He’s answering questions. [laughs]
Mimi: Nice! Alright, let’s do this! What does he feel like?
William: You know it’s funny, everybody hits you different. He’s…kinda calm. He’s got that real, just “sittin’ there” kinda feel. I don’t see him but I feel him, he’s all in my head and shoulder area. I think he’s behind me somewhere.
Mimi: Ok, so the first question I always ask is pretty easy. I want him to describe to me in one word or sentence what his personality was like when he was alive – according to him.
Mimi: *He* was challenging – yeah. [Laughs]
William: To others, yes.
Mimi: That’s very true.
William: He is [had] a difficult point of view to follow for most people, is what he’s saying.
William: He was kind of a radical in that way, he says.
Mimi: I agree, but I agree with everything he said, so he didn’t seem like that to me, but I understand why he would say that. What was his life purpose?
Bill Hicks: It was to push boundaries and to get people to think about the boundaries.
William: …I’m listening…It’s not just for him to push them himself. He wanted to entertain people so that they would remember what boundaries were being pushed so that others could follow behind him eventually.
Mimi: That’s quite amazing. I wonder, does he know why he died so early? Was it to leave on a high note? Because I do feel we need people like him now. I do miss him, I miss that voice of his.
William: I don’t know how he died, but did he die from drugs? Cause that’s what I’m hearing. Was it drug related for him?
Mimi: I do believe he died from cancer, but he did do a lot of drugs, yes.
Bill Hicks: I liked them too, they were good!
William: He’s showing me a candle.
Bill Hicks: Nobody appreciates a candle when it gets down to the end, because then they’ve already had their fill of that candle. So when it goes out early, people are shocked by that.
William: That was his plan. To make an impact and to get out when the getting was good. That was all in his plan, it wasn’t an accident, is what he’s telling me.
Mimi: Ok. What does he do now, up there? Does he have a special mission, does he help people?
William: Yeah he’s buzzing me and he says he works with kids, believe it or not. He really enjoys working with little kids. I’m seeing hospitals, he’s got like a doctor jacket on, and he really works with the kids that really need help, but they don’t know they’re getting it from him.
Mimi: What kind of help?
Bill Hicks: Yeah, I do it all!
Mimi: It makes sense and it’s very comforting to know that he does that, I like that!
William: He’s showing me a little yin/yang thing.
Bill Hicks: Yeah, I was the black with the white dot over here [his time on earth], but now I’m all white dot, but I’m still got the black dot for certain people.
Mimi: He sounded very angry, but I do believe very much that what he was saying, deep down, was very positive.
William: Yes, he’s air quoting “façade”.
Bill Hicks: When I was alive, I believed I had that anger, but now that I’m removed from it, I saw that as a tool to help.
Mimi: Exactly! And he used that anger to be creative and to share his knowledge with people.
William: Absolutely. That’s what he’s saying.
Mimi: Yes. I got you Bill, I know! [Laughs] I want to know if he can tell us about a past life that influenced this one.
William: I’m getting pictures but he’s showing me a cow, on like a farm…I’m asking him how that influenced what you did here.
Bill Hicks: I had a lot of time to soak up the sun, live the good life…I didn’t have anything to be angry about, so I wanted to come back and be angry. I did the perfect sunny life where I was getting up early in the morning and it was fulfilling, and now I wanted to see the exact opposite.
William: So that had an influence because he was so happy, he had the family life. I’m seeing the kids, the golden fields where kids are lit up all gold, so everything was aces in that life, is what he’s saying. But of course he didn’t have the same impact on the world, he just had it on his family. So he had a message to get out, and he had all that stored up positivity and he was like “well let me just spin it a little differently and see what happens.” And that was the whole Bill Hicks life, is what he’s telling me now.
William: Yeah that’s pretty cool. Big buzz at the back of my head.
Mimi: I wanna know what he’s the most proud of.
William: I keep seeing a music group, was he involved in music groups in some way?
Mimi: It could be…that sounds familiar. I know he loved music.
William: He’s showing me hammers…um…
Mimi: Like he built something?
William: No, it’s in relation to the band. It’s a metal band, I should know it! He’s acknowledging this happened after he died. A band put out something, a tribute to him that he’s pretty proud of. Uh…[William is doing a hammering hand movement]. Oh. Tool. The band Tool. Tool! Yes!
Mimi: Nice one! Ok!
William: Tool has something to do with it cause I’m seeing Maynard, the singer for that band?
Mimi: Alright, we’ll check that out!
William: He likes that they kind of symbolically carried his spirit and torch
… There’s one album in particular and I think there’s even a picture of him. And he might even be wearing a doctor’s suit; he’s showing me a doctor’s suit.
Mimi: I’m not familiar with that, but it could be, it does make sense cause he was very fond of music, of rock and roll, and…it would make sense.
William: And I’m not sure if he was into them when he was alive, he’s just saying “That’s cool, I appreciate that.” He’s in that album, I think, as a picture, or something in there.
William: It’s a thumbs up. Let’s see if he has anything else to elaborate on for him, alive. Well he’s very proud of his stand up routine. I see that a lot.
Mimi: I sure hope so!
William: I see different years of that. He definitely accomplished what he started to get with that, is what I’m hearing. I’m trying to find something in particular.
Mimi: Well being proud of your stand up…that’s pretty good. I would be very proud of that!
William: Feels like a cop out, though. I want something more!
Bill Hicks: But I am! I am proud of that! Honest!
William: I got you. I’m not doubting him. He’s saying he really enjoyed meeting people as well. Part of the stand up was that he got to travel a lot and he did get to sight see a lot. He really liked that too. That actually opened his mind, is what he’s saying. He got to see a lot of different things. So he’s very proud of that too. That was another one of his side missions, was to travel and see different cities.
Mimi: Ok, what was he least proud of, or is the least proud of?
William: The fact that he glorified drug use to some people. Personally, he enjoyed it, but at the same time he kind of became known for it, so other people tried it that…probably wouldn’t have tried it. Symbolically I’m getting it..because of shooting up…[sound cuts]…that’s the least thing he’s proud of is that people got the wrong message there.
Bill Hicks: They didn’t get the wrong message. They got the right message that I really enjoyed drugs. So maybe you would try drugs and enjoy that.
William: And that’s kinda not what he would want.
Mimi: I think what he was saying, if I understand him right, was that he was…especially the natural drugs like marijuana and mushrooms, that these things were a birth right for us, because they were natural and from plants.
Bill Hicks: Yeah, I’m not ashamed of that! That stuff was eye opening. That brought new consciousness. I tried some of the harder stuff too.
Mimi: Oh did he, ok.
William: That’s what he’s saying.
Bill Hicks: I guess I would have liked to stay down here [does hand gesture pushing towards the ground] with that. I would’ve had a leg to stand on saying “it’s from the earth, and natural, and a good high,” but I pushed it a little too big.
Mimi: Right. What happened after his transition? How did that go for him? Did he have a life review? How was that?
Bill Hicks: Yes, I had a life review. And that’s kind of where I saw that extra drug-use thing. It was a quick hit, you know, my guides and I talked and we’ll work on that next time around. It’s something I really wanna work on.
William: Yeah, the life review was a lot of positives.
Bill Hicks: I found a lot of positivity there, where I didn’t think it was possible.
William: That’s like a secret “mission accomplished” there.
Bill Hicks: I did touch a lot of people in the right way, so check that life off as a success.
Mimi: Does he want to come back soon? Or is he already here?
Bill Hicks: Yes. I am here.
Mimi: [Gasp] No!
William: He’s showing me a little girl. She’s young – right now – in our space and time now. So he’s here. Let me see if I can get some keys on what he’s doing. I’m asking him what’s the goal of this life and he’s showing me that she’s a little girl now, but he’s showing her grown up, her hair’s all tied back, she’s got a bandana on, and it looks like [she’s holding] a Molotov cocktail, like she’s gonna be a radical!
Mimi: [Laughs] I was gonna ask that exactly! “Is she gonna be “angry””?
William: She’s pissed! [Laughs] Oh yeah!
William: But she’s pissed for a reason.
Mimi: Of course! Yes, that’s why I’m happy! Someone who’s most likely gonna help and fight for people.
William: It’s like an uprising third world country revolt kind of thing.
Mimi: Wow! Good for you, Bill.
William: She’s gonna be involved in that, so that’s on the dock. So unless something happens to change that, that’s where it’s going.
Mimi: Wow. So, he’s still angry. There’s still stuff that needs to be done, he’s not living the cow life!
Bill Hicks: Well, it worked in this life, why not try it again? It’s a tool I’m familiar with, and I’m gonna put it to good use this time. Not that I didn’t, but this is gonna be different.
Mimi: What does he have to say about our politicians and everything that’s going on right now?
Bill Hicks: [two middle fingers up and yells] Fuck them!
William: [Laughs] Yeah, he doesn’t like them at all.
Mimi: Neither do I!
Bill Hicks: They’ll get theirs. People are very wise these days. A lot of eyes are opened. There’s not so much transparency, you don’t get away with shit anymore. A lot of these people are back peddling.
Mimi: Things come out in the media, but people don’t react, people are kind of blasé about things.
William: He sits back and he’s got his cigarette.
Bill Hicks: Yeah! Tell me about it! That’s what I was dealing with! That’s why I was so angry! That was my whole mission, was to get people involved. And I did that. Well, that’s what I’m gonna be doing over here too, this girl. People are gonna get involved. They’re getting there.
Bill Hicks: We [spirits] see the big picture. We see all these little pieces, they’re all falling into place, and it’s gonna change. It’s not gonna happen overnight, but they’re gonna wake up. But yeah, F those guys for now.
Mimi: [Laughs] Oh, I miss you Bill Hicks.
William: He doesn’t like them at all!
Mimi: I know, that’s why I miss you. I’m always wondering what you would say about them now but…well now I know! Do you have a message for us here, us earthlings? What would you like us to know? Your fans, watching or reading this now.
Bill Hicks: [Laughs] Why did you say “earthlings”? Do you know what’s coming? What? What? What? No, not yet.
Mimi: [Laughs] I’m just kidding!
Bill Hicks: But I’m not kidding! But I’m kidding.
William: Final message…It’s political. He’s very political. It involves the eyes, and it’s funny: he’s showing me three eyes, the one in the middle – the third eye – and…oh good I’m tingling, I’m on the right track.
Bill Hicks: Hey, it’s ok! I don’t know why everybody’s not smoking marijuana now, it would make everything so much easier! It really would. A few states, they’re coming along, they’re fine, but the majority needs to just relax. Things are gonna work out. But at the same time it’s gonna be bumpy, you’re gonna need people to shake things up before it gets better. I’m working on it. I’m here working on it, so I got your back.
Mimi: Is he? Ok nice! I wanna know if his view or opinions – or understanding rather – of the afterlife and spirituality, everything that he was into – cause he was into all this stuff – if that changed when he passed? Obviously, I’m sure his mind expanded and he knows everything now, but how much?
William: He’s showing me this giant awakening, and it’s not an awakening, it’s a remembering, is what he’s saying.
William: He certainly had the perspective shift.
Bill Hicks: It doesn’t happen right away, you integrate to that energy slowly after you pass. It’s kind of like filling a helium balloon. You’re a little balloon on earth, and you got these ideas, and your mind is somewhere, and you get pumped up when you’re studying this stuff, but when you cross over and allow that to fill you back up, it’s the difference between a little balloon and a giant riding balloon. You can go anywhere in this balloon, the sky’s the limit at that point. So yeah, my views obviously changed, because it was going from a little party balloon to a giant “I can ride my own consciousness wherever I wanna go.” I was very spiritual and I did have that little extra nugget that the average person didn’t have, because I was really into that stuff, I liked that stuff. And that’s why I got into this…I tried the drugs and whatnot, to expand. There’s this part of you inside that knows it’s there, so it looks for it. That’s why all these secret places all have the eyeball symbol, it’s all [about] looking for something, or you see something, or you just know it’s there because that’s the first sense you have, your eyes, you take it in with your eyes first.
William: I think I’m off on a tangent at this point, but I was trying to listen!
Bill Hicks: The shift? Yeah, it’s obvious, everything is different, everything vibrates differently, and it’s familiar. You cut yourself off from that, when you’re here [on earth]. Which is intentional. That’s just how it is. So you’re always trying to remember that greatness, that’s already over here. So yeah, your perspective would shift; you get that slow build back into…everything.
William: So there was definitely a shift going on with that perception.
Mimi: I’m sure he was happy when that happened.
William: Well yeah, you’re home!
Mimi: Exactly. I have two more questions and then we’ll let him go. I want to know what he can tell us about anger. He was very angry but he had a way of filtering that. How can we do that also and do something creative and positive that with our anger, that can possibly help others too?
William: He’s pointing to the [third] eye, again.
Bill Hicks: It’s all self-awareness. You have to know what it is, to experience anger, to be angry. I mean, it’s all energy! It’s all love! It’s just the coin flip. Your job sucks, you’re pissed off. Everything’s wrong. You’re angry. What do you do with that anger? You have the energy. Then you have to work on your self-control, and not a lot of people have the ability to do that. They just don’t. That anger is…
William: He’s showing me lizards. Like lizard brain: You react. I’m angry. I react. I’m hurt. I react.
Bill Hicks: The sophisticated soul is the one that can take that energy and convert it – I can’t tell everyone how to do that, cause it’s different for everyone. I took my anger out and made “comedy” [air quotes] out of it, but it was my social commentary. I was pissed, but I did it in a way that made people laugh and I was learning at the same time. I’m pretty proud of that, that’s a pretty good example of your question: take in the anger, doing something positive. It worked for me. It might not work for you. But step 1 is, you have to identify: “I’m angry.” Sometimes people are angry and they don’t even know they’re angry.
Mimi: I agree.
William: He’s talking to me specifically. I was late today, and I was very angry, and I came home. I’m by myself, no else is here, just me and the kids, and I start yelling at the boys and he’s showing me that. Life rewind. He’s like “Why were you angry?” – “Cause of work.” – “Why were you yelling at the kids?” – “…Oh you’re right! Why am I yelling at the kids?” [Laughs]. He’s like “See?”
Bill Hicks: You don’t even know you’re angry, but then it’s there. Don’t worry about it, I’m just teasing you, but that’s it. It’s another tool, and it can be used for good – I mean, it’s there for a reason! You’re not gonna know happiness without anger.
William: He’s showing me the yin/yang symbol again.
Bill Hicks: You gotta have it, but you have to acknowledge it as well. Like fear. That generates all kinds of energy, and that can lead to anger too! But fear itself is something that, when you confront it, no longer has power. If you confront the anger and you know why you’re angry, you can acknowledge that and use it for something else. Maybe you paint furiously. Maybe you’re a football player and that gives you the extra energy to catch the guy, cause now you’re angry that you missed him the first time. People do use anger in the right way, but you have to acknowledge it first. Self-awareness and working on your own problems is step 1.
Mimi: I agree. Beautiful answer! Ok final question. I spoke to Sid Vicious and he said something I agree with, he said there was no voice right now for our generation. And Bill Hicks, I thought, even though he wasn’t maybe that well known…I think he was well known, but maybe more…I don’t know…not on a mainstream level just because he was controversial.
Bill Hicks: I wasn’t so underground, but yeah, I get your point.
Mimi: Not underground, but yeah, controversial so I do feel he was an important voice. There’s no voice in stand-up, there’s no voice in music right now that really stands out, that’s speaking for the people and using that anger.
William: He shows me one person…he likes…oh…what’s his name…
Mimi: Just describe him.
William: I got his picture. You can call him an activist but he’s a comedian, he’s an actor. Black hair, long, wavy, English, mustache, goatee, thin guy…
Mimi: Oh, Russell Brand.
William: Yes! Russell Brand! Thank you. He likes Russell Brand, and he’s very socially conscious. He likes him a lot.
Mimi: That’s true.
Bill Hicks: He might not be “the voice,” but if I had to pick anybody, it’d be Russell Brand.
Mimi: Does he see that anyone is going to fill in that shoe soon? Let’s just say in stand-up, for example. I think it’s important because right now everything is so politically correct.
William: Yeah. He’s got his eye on a couple people he thinks might be able to get to that point. Russell Brand obviously he likes. But I’m hearing Amy Schumer, the female comedian, blond hair?
Mimi: Sure, yeah.
William: He likes her, she’s edgy.
Bill Hicks: I don’t know about “the voice of a generation” but…I like Russell Brand.
William: He likes Amy Schumer. Those are the two he’s got right now. Yeah, just those two. I asked for a third and he’s like “No, that’s good. I like those two.”
Mimi: Thank you so much Bill Hicks! Oh my God, that was amazing.
William: He’s very thankful.
Bill Hicks [to William]: Yeah, you did pretty good. 90%.
William: Ok! Good! [Laughs]
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